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Maybe was a gang initiation or something, I don't know.William J. And then when the fight was over all the combatants left together as if nothing happened. Funny thing was it was girls brawling with guys watching and the girls were tearing each others clothes off, and everytone was standing in the trains doorways watching and doing nothing. I saw a gang fight at Shepherd Ave and called the cops one Friday night. If you want to see real wildness, ride the A line Friday and Saturday nights in Brooklyn. All in all my guess is you should be ok as long as you avoid the drunks and kids looking for trouble on Friday and Saturday nights. Just look like you are alert and paying attention and stay near the motorman or conductor if you are scared and alert them if you are in any danger. I have not personally seen any incidents at the Myrtle Ave train station - I also did M shuttles at night and changing ends at Myrtle Ave, but I would on occasion see police activity by the turnstiles and down on the street below.Īll in all it is rough on that line in comparison with other neighborhoods in Brooklyn BUT it is much better than it was 10/20 years ago. Broadway Junction can be dangerous at all times of the day. In 6 months I had 4 incidents at that station that I had to either personally get involved in or call the cops for. is like being in two different worlds.Īs far as stops go, ironically most problems I saw occurred in Manhattan at Essex street. That line from what you see on a Saturday night into Sunday morning from 2-5 a.m. Once Sunday morning came after 5:30am it was a different world with the drunks and troublemakers gone and seeing people dressed up for church and going to work and families out. I have seen gangs get on the train, I have had fights occur on the train, and there was a gang assault-homicide at 85th-Forest Parkway last summer that made the news although it was not front page material and if memory serves me I believe the victim was a case of mistaken identity.Īs other posters have stated, if you look street smart and pay attention, you should generally be ok. The line itslef goes through some rough areas. I am a train operator and I worked the J line Saturday nights into Sunday morning for 6 months last year so my opinion is based on actual experience working the line. It's mainly late at night that I would avoid riding the J alone. However, I will say in the morning, during the day and after work, you really shouldn't have any problems. At times I would prefer to just take the R to Queens Center mall then take the bus down to Jamaica ave because I didn't want to ride the J through Brooklyn. It just doesn't feel like a safe area anymore.
I speak from first hand experience, I lived just off Jamaica Ave in Woodhaven, and I've seen people running from cops, cops taking people away from apartment buildings almost weekly. Jamaica Ave under the el tracks looks like Nightmare on Elm Street in that area of Queens - rusted tracks, desolate, old run down mom and pop stores, people posted up on random corners and alleyways in the middle of the night looking like they're up to no good.
Woodhaven to 121st isn't as bad as that stretch, but I doubt you'll feel at home there either unless you're used to seeing gritty urban environments. I would say to take precaution from Flushing Avenue to Elderts Lane. Maybe not 15 years ago, but definitely safe now. Any stop west of Flushing Avenue is actually pretty safe now. I disagree on your description of the "danger" stops.
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